Avoiding Bias: Simonsen's Rules for Variable Star Observing
Avoiding Bias: Simonsen's Rules for Variable Star Observing
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I read this last night before making my first visual estimates for CS and the 10 star training program. As October was a washout with rain darn near every day and November busy and a bit rainy, I had to put this off for a while but last night had some time so I went out and did it finally! I read through the excellent beginners manual and didn't go any further, just went out, found the stars and made my estimates. How good they are is another question. lol I did feel after doing it however, that I had laid down a baseline for myself. Next time I can take even more time, relax and I know it will slowly come into 'focus' for me. Hoping to get my scope out tonight (it finally came back from Celestron two days ago! woohoo!) and try making the estimates with the scope rather than naked eye/bino's. I'm thinking a pair of binoviewers may work out even better for variables, anyone use them for their viewing/estimates?`Moe
Moe,Great job getting out and observing. Keep up the good work. The Tutorial is very good. Eps Aur should be getting close to minimum now.Chris StephanRobert Clyde ObservatorySebring, Florida USA
Hi Mike, Firstly let me add that i'm a very recent member to the group and am quite excited about the project. I own a 6 inch home made reflector and have completed some courses from our amat astronomers club.Though i have participated in quite few messier marathons, i dont feel confident about my estimates of stellar magnitudes. My point of concern "Bias" , was precisely discussed by you. I have just started with the 10 star program and i'm very much concerned of the fact that the observations seem to be very much dependent on individual perception... I mean it depends a lot on the observer doesn't it? and in that case how do we ensure the quality of our observations? Any ways i think il improve on it with time and from guidance from members this group. ~Akshay Desai
Hello Akshay,Glad to have you on the 20/20 Vision Team. If you practice with these stars in the "10 Star Tutorial", you will get a feel for variable star observing. Remember, these 10 stars are for naked eye. Do not use your telescope on them. These charts have a very wide field to them. As you get the hang of it, I can send you a list of some suggested stars to use your telescope on. You can then download charts for them from the VSP on the AAVSO web site www.aavso.orgMike and I will be glad to give you advice on observing these stars. Just send your questions the same way you did this current post. Keep up the good work.Chris StephanRobert Clyde ObservatorySebring, Florida USA
Yes, Mike. I agree, bias can be a big problem. It's also sneaky, because you have no idea that it is happening. I have really tried to follow the rule that is generally followed on the AAVSO Discussion Digest. We try not to mention exact magnitude estimates when we say a star is doing such and such. It is better to let the person make their own unbiased estimate.When mentoring new observers, I make the estimate first, then have them make their's BEFORE I tell them what my estimate is, then afterwards we compare.Chris StephanSebring, FL.